Cornish Memories

A page for those who wish to share some of their own or family Cornish memories. If you have memories to share please let us have them via the Kowethas Ertach Kernow email at: associationcornishheritage@gmail.com - Audio, video and images are also welcome.

Click the link below:

  • Paul Holmes: Kilts & Kernewek at Cornwall Council memories
  • Rod Lyon: learning Breton and Kernewek, a young enquiring mind
  • Muriel Lyon: Interviewed by Rod, growing up in Newquay
  • Viv Martin: Ancestors emigrating to Australia and Cornish tales

Paul Holmes from Beacon, Camborne shares his Cornish memories. (Click on the images to enlarge and read)

Paul Holmes married Jean Pollock at Bridge Methodist Chapel, Illogan 26th January 2013. This was the last wedding before the chapel closed.

Former Grand Bard of Gorsedh Kernow Rod Lyon originally from Newquay shares some of his Cornish memories in a radio interview with Chris Blount

Rod Lyon interviews his mother about her early life as a child in Newquay during the early 20th century recorded by Chris Blount.

Viv Martin Carrum Downs Retirement Village, Carrum Downs, Victoria, Australia. (Click on the images to enlarge and read)

William Cornish and Elizabeth Opie

William Cornish, youngest of twin boys and third child of five, all boys, was born 26th August 1830 and baptised 26th December 1830 at Gwennap, the son of John and Harriet Cornish nee Dowrick.  The family were copper miners and lived in the parish at Tresamble. Elizabeth  Opie,  fourth  child  of  eight  and  eldest  girl,  to  Thomas  Opie and  Elizabeth Knuckey, born 13th November, 1831 at Goonvean, Stithians, Cornwall,  England.

We had moved to Clarinda (South Clayton) and I travelled to Bendigo and took my  mother  (Myrtle  Martin) to  a  Cornish  celebration  sponsored  by  the  Cornish  Association of Victoria at Sovereign Hill, Ballarat on Sunday, 6th March 1988.  In a  discussion with a Ballarat member, there was revealed a listing of passengers on the  “Sultana”  sailing  from  Plymouth,  U.K.  to  Adelaide,  South  Australia  which  he  duly  copied  and  kindly  mailed  to  me  as  it  listed  this  couple  and  William’s brother,  Thomas, as passengers.  The “Sultana” departed from London 24th April, 1851;  from Plymouth May 1, 1851 and arrived in Adelaide August 14, 1851 (the same year).

According to family legend found among the early family papers, my Cornish great-great-grandparents, William Cornish and Elizabeth Opie, was a reference to this couple that stated they supposedly met in the mines and married in Wales.  Well, only partly true; they may have met in the mines in Wales, but the record of their marriage is in Gwennap, Cornwall 28th April 1851.  Census records for the mining areas in southern Wales do show a multitude of folk named CORNISH.  There is no indication where this information  came from or who wrote it.  Like many other references it had probably lay idle without  question from any of the descendants.

Sometime earlier but maybe later, we had discovered the marriage of William and Elizabeth as 28th April, 1851 in Gwennap, Cornwall, England which was just three  days before the “Sultana” sailed for Australia!  This part of that myth was busted about  being  married  in Wales!  Cannot dismiss the  part  of  ‘met in Wales’ as many from  Cornwall were in southern Wales for the mining possibly from a decline of work in  Cornwall?  A  search  of  the  census  records  in  Wales  revealed  too  many  named  Cornish,  the  theory  being  the  Census  takers  took  a  “short-cut”  and  just  called  everybody from Cornwall, “Cornish”?

William and Elizabeth Cornish sailed on the “Sultana” along with Thomas Cornish, a younger brother of William departing from Plymouth 1st May 1851 and arriving in Adelaide 14th August of the same year.

A researcher friend of mine was asked to search out (pre-cd indexes and the internet) the arrival of a granny (not mine) on which vessel.  The story goes that  Granny was mixing the Christmas pudding when junior, pen in hand for his school project asked: "What  ship did you come on, Gran?" To which she replied, as she added her ingredients "The Raisin.”  Obviously this must have been a "senior's moment" because with further research it was discovered to be the “Sultana”.

My great-great-grandparents spent a short while at Burra in South Australia where their first child, a girl, Elizabeth Jane, was born and died.  Elizabeth Jane was born 22 January, 1852 and is recorded  in South Australia at The Murray, Burra but she apparently died the same year  (no record found).  They are then believed to have heard of the gold in Victoria and travelled overland to Forest Creek, then moved to Creswick, then to Amherst and later to Talbot.

As no shipping record can  be  found  for  William and Elizabeth from  South  Australia to Victoria, it can be fairly certain that they walked, as many apparently did,  along with other Cornish folk, possibly relatives, because the next child, another girl,  also called Elizabeth Jane, was born at Forest Creek (Castlemaine), Victoria on 7th  August, 1853. The next child, the third and the first boy, was  John  Cornish q.v.,  my  great- grandfather,  born  12th  December  1854  at  Creswick,  Victoria.    Two  more  children  followed; Caroline known as Carrie born about 1858 at Amherst and William born about 1863 at Talbot. [Can't help wondering if the first child, Elizabeth Jane, died on the trek from South Australia to Victoria]?

Relationship Chart of William Cornish and Elizabeth Opie

A Cornish Raconteur

Are the Cornish considered to be great raconteurs?  I sometimes wonder if that's where my mother inherited this ability!  My mother once said that her mother must have thought this particular grandson (me) had lost some of his marbles?  It seemed that I found my grandmother extremely amusing, even when she was not intending to be.  I'm sure it was the matter-of-fact way that she related events and happenings in her everyday life.  As my mother was the eldest of the eldest, she associated with and remembered her grandparents quite well.

This is about her grandfather, John Cornish, born 12th December 1854, married Emilie Elizabeth Hull 25th December 1882, died 17th March 1939 when I was only two.

Following a visit from a much younger second cousin, it has inspired me to commence this collection as it is just possible that I may be the only one left to narrate these stories.  They are not in chronological order and don't really need to be, I guess.

One of the most fascinating part of the Cornish working man's speech is to add h'aitches where they h'ain't and leave them h'orf where they h'ar!  If you are Cornish born, please forgive me if I don't get the accent quite right.  However, I expect to make this presentation without interruption because as John was known to say, "When you're talkin', you h'ain't list'nin’!"

It seems that everybody could stay in bed as long as John was still in bed but as soon as his foot hit the floor, the "roll-call" would start:  "Lizzie, Annie, Richard; get up.  John, Tom, Gussie; come on get up!"  The work ethic seemed to be - one up, all up!  He was also known to say, "Them's that's fond of their bed h’in the mornin', h'aint so fond h’of h'it h'at night!"

John was reputed to be a good gardener and had been recognised with the work done to the Warragul Hospital gardens.  I think the following comment may have been about his daughter's garden, but I could be wrong, "H'everythin' h'everywhere; nothin'  h'anywhere!"

On another occasion my mother and grandmother were expecting 'Grandad Cornish' for lunch.  Grandma was at the sink in the kitchen overlooking the back vegetable garden.  John had entered by the back gate and was spotted by Grandma pulling things out of the garden.  Grandma rocketed out the back door bellowing, "Get out of that; I've go carrots in there!"  The retort came, "H'I know h'and h'I'm weeding them h'out 'cos they're too close togither!"

On still another occasion, Grandma was chipped about her garden when John said, "You're lookin' h'after that plant real well!"  He was referring to a tall thistle that was hidden amongst some other tall plants in a bed against the front veranda.

John Cornish liked the occasional tipple and to disguise the smell of the drink he would come through the vegetable garden, pluck some onion leaves and chew on them and discard the rest into the garden.  When he entered the house, the smell of onion was prominent and then be greeted by his wife, "Jack!  You been drinking again?"

Would you believe that with a name like Vivian Martin, I am only one-eighth Cornish!  The Martin, from my paternal grandfather, originates from Fife in Scotland and the Vivian my mother plucked from a newspaper at the time because she liked the name!  (A bit of let-down really not being named after some saint or some saintly person)!  It was only years later that I did my Cornish research and discovered things that my mother was not aware of including a connection through female lines to the Martin's of Stithians in Cornwall!  In later years, I alerted my mother to the fact that there are two male spellings of my name – Vivian and Vyvyan; all the rest are female spellings.  My mother then stated that if she had known about the Vyvyan then I would have got that!  Ouch!

Prior to coming to Melbourne in early 1985, my wife (Freda) and I had a bookshop for 11 years.  Bendigo is in the country about 100 miles (150 kilometres) north of Melbourne and has a strong mining background together with adjacent areas such as Eaglehawk.

When serving one of my customers one day, she suddenly reminded me of my maternal grandmother and I said to her, "Mrs. Phillips, do you have any Cornish blood in you?"  Her reply was, "What do you think with a name like Phillips?"  "Yes," says I, "But that is your married name, and I do not know what your maiden name might be."

I then continued to relate a story that my mother told me about her Cornish (but born in Australia) maternal grandfather.  When she was young, probably a teenager, she asked her grandfather (h’out of "divilment") to spell 'umbrella' and the response was:  "H'ew, h'emm, bee, h'ar, h'ee, h'ell, h'ell, h'ay."  My mother dutifully wrote it down precisely the way he had said it, probably not with the apostrophes that I have included above, and then asked, "Is this how you spell umbrella grandfather?"  showing him the written interpretation.  The retort from grandfather was swift, "Git h'out h'of h'it, h'afore h'I put the stick h'about your ligs!"

Mrs. (Teddy) Phillips responded that that would be correct as they used to have an older Cornish couple living next door to them in Eaglehawk and they also spoke like that.  Then, feigning reluctance, she told me her story, which she assured me was true!  It seems that the Cornish husband of the couple next door arrived home from work one day with a very sore back and, stripped down but still standing up, was having

his wife rub his back with 'liniment' (the lin'h'iment; another Cornish favourite it seems).  Unfortunately, she applied it too liberally and it trickled down his back and 'tickled' a rather sensitive spot and he was bellowing out at the top of his voice, "Me h'arse is on fire, me h'arse is on fire!"  A passerby thought he was yelling that his house was on fire and called the fire brigade!

(This story was researched by George Ellis of Bendigo Cornish and a person who lived opposite this couple assured him that it was true.  George has published this in one of his books.  Hmmm ….. you be the judge)!

Australian Family Story [1]

Photocopy of photo (don't know who has the original) shows Richard Trembath on the left & Thomas Trembath on the right at Mt. Lyell mine, Tasmania January 1910. (They are my first cousins, twice removed).

One of these Trembath boys wrote home to their mother, Mary Louisa (nee Hull), that, while mining in Tasmania, a voice kept telling him, "Go away." She wrote back, advising to obey it. He did not straight away, then, sometime later, wrote that the rats were leaving the mine, so he was too.

He went for a week's holiday to Hobart, then to Sydney, N.S.W. He was only a month there and the 1912 explosion in Mt. Lyell took place.

Do not know the origin of this story but suspect that "Tottie" (Mary Caroline Trembath) may have given this to my mother?

Ha Ha - have just noticed the sign over the door but am not sure what it says - I think it is an 8 but maybe a 3? + boS or Z for "boys" HOME but the E is back the front - their idea of a joke or maybe a distortion of the Cornish accent

Although my Martin name is inherited through my father's line, of course, I do have Martin back 6 generations on my mother's side & that line is from Cornwall, mostly centred around Stithians & Gwennap along with the Opie's. Building that tree embraces nearly every name in the central mining district but very few in the Penzance/St Just area. Sometimes it's almost as if it is another country!